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  1. stumbler

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    First the budget problems in Wisconsin actually have nothing to do with public employee unions and if the state of Wisconsin is broke how come Governor Walker is handing out $117 Million in tax cuts?

    n Fact, The Shortfall Is Largely Due To Obligations Unreleated To Unions

     
  2. stumbler

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    Also one of the biggest problems with the blowout and determining what needed to be done to protect from it happening again was that BP, the Rig, and Halliburton were stonewalling and lying out their asses about what they'd done and what had actually happened. That's why they had to shut them down. Under the Bush Administration the regulations and inspections were almost non-existent and all the deep water drilling operations were allowed to have the same emergency response plan, which had proven woefully inadequate.

    And we are talking about the same drilling industry after all that just had another oil spill in the gulf a week or two ago when one of their plugged and abandoned wells started blowing out.

    They were "surprised" that well had that much oil and pressure in it when they plugged it and moved off. I think people who can't tell if they've got an oil well on one hand and a cement job on the other hand need a little regulating and looking after.
     
  3. Kimiko

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    Actually, Stumbler was correct in at least one respect. The entire Concorde fleet was grounded after the crash at Le Bourget, pending an investigation. The investigation found no problems with the airworthiness of the plane.

    Ironically, the metal debris that caused the crash fell off of a notoriously unsafe aircraft....a DC-10.
     
  4. Kimiko

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    I agree...and I'm not confident that anything has changed. I heard one report that stated that the emergency response plan currently in use is the same one they used BEFORE the Deepwater Horizon.
     
  5. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    And the investigation was concluded very quickly, the Concorde flew commercially for an additional 3 years with no modifications made necessary because the incident.

    The DC-10, after initial design corrections, has enjoyed a very good safety record, comparable to any modern aircraft.
     
  6. ace's n 8's

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    Grounding the fleet, perhaps, but that's not what your initial statement claimed, you stated this;

     
  7. stumbler

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    Thank you. I did remember all the Concorde's being grounded but didn't know they flew briefly after that.

    And even though I've admitted that error it does not seem to be enough for some people.

    No nothing has changed out there. Not even the royalties that the government is not getting paid because of a typographical error that the Bush Administration allowed the oil companies to exploit.

    And I suspect they also found out the response plan was not the real problem and absolute negligence and stupidity was.

    The thing that no one wants to give President Obama for though is not only responding to the crisis but setting a precedence for the offending company to set up a trust fund for damages. That's a big one and will probably be part of any future blowouts. Get the money up front.;)
     
  8. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Kimi was also wrong in her post, the incident that temporarily grounded the Concorde had absolutely nothing to do with them permanently being taken out of service as you had originally stated and then admitted your error. Your admission is more than enough for me, is it enough for you?

    The Concorde was not an unsafe aircraft, it was an impractical one.

    For someone who prides accuracy in their posts, she flubbed it as well.
     
  9. stumbler

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    First Recall Petition For Wisconsin GOP Senator Filed

    It's On Like Donkey Kong!: Wisconsin Has The Signatures For Recall Of Republican State Sen. Kapanke


    *not_secure_link*crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/its-donkey-kong-wisconsin-has-signatu
     
  10. stumbler

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    Ohio just signed into law anti union legislation
     
  12. stumbler

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    Now is Ohio where the residents have 90 days to reject the law?
     
  13. formost

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    I'll check into that
    I beleive there is a repeil proceder in place . But it only amounts to an injuction against putting into effect to allow it to come before a public vote.
     
  14. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    I know someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I have not seen this study done by the Milwaukee Journal on the amount of political donations to the missing Democrats, by public employees, posted in here.

    No wonder they want the law scrapped.

    *not_secure_link*www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117078618.html

     
  15. ace's n 8's

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    Unions support Democrats, Democrats support unions, seems to be the law of the land. I hope that you were not surprised by the factual information that you found.
     
  16. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    No, I was not surprised, except that I truly believe that it understated the percentage unions and their members donate.

    My concern was that the ever fair liberals had not posted a link to the article.
     
  17. stumbler

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    Oh yeah that's terrible. You mean the union members and Democrats in Wisconsin are contributing money to help fight the GOP's union busting?

    And they're the only ones, right?:rolleyes:

    Justice-For-Sale Lobbyists Raising ‘Unlimited and Undisclosed’ Donations To Buy Supreme Court Seat




    *not_secure_link*readersupportednew...disclosed-donations-to-buy-supreme-court-seat


    And how many millions did you say the Koch Brothers are pumping into their national Union busting effort?



    *not_secure_link*www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Koch_Industries
     
  18. stumbler

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    Wisconsing Union Busting Law On Hold For Next Two Months

    Well the success or failure over Governor Scott Walker's Union busting attempts and war on the middle class appears to hang on the Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice election because the law has now been placed on hold until the Supreme Court can take the case two months from now.

    So if the democrats can pull off a win in the April 5th election its most likely going to be bye-bye union busting and probably a bunch of Wisconsin Republicans and Walker as well.

    *not_secure_link*www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/01/wisconsin-union-law-passa_n_843467.html
     
  19. pornluvr

    pornluvr Supreme Pontiff of Bratonia

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    New Hampshire

    Unfortunately, New Hampshire is going through its own version of the Wisconsin battle. Last Wednesday the Republican majority House passed a budget which included the infamous Kurk amendment. The good news is that support for the bill is very slim in the New Hampshire senate, even among majority party Republicans, and it will most likely be voted down. It is also opposed by Governor John Lynch. I'm extremely proud to say that several of my teaching colleagues and I were at a rally in Concord last week protesting the passage of this bill. We were joined by firefighters, police and many public employees. It was an amazing experience, and showed how out of touch the Republicans truly are. I believe that in the end this will work to our advantage, however--the Republicans will overplay their hand and be voted out in the next election.

    *not_secure_link*articles.cnn.com/2...isconsin-capitol-building-bargaining?_s=PM:US

    *not_secure_link*www.concordmonitor.com/article/247411/unions-bargaining-would-end
     
  20. stumbler

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    I wish I could have been there and I am actually contributing money to just about anyone fighting this Union Busting Bullshit.

    What a fucking crock of bullshit. The top 5% of this nation rip us all off, steal $13 TRILLION FUCKING DOLLARS out of economy that we have to make up, get to keep their fucking bonuses, and then expect teachers, fire fighters, police, ambulance, road and bridge crews and an army of clearks and accountants that keep the states business going to pay for it.

    That is the biggest and dumbest con (if you fall for it) in the history of greed and corruption.

    But I'm agreeing with you. The I don't care if the Koch Brothers and Fox News were successful at duping a bunch to tea party dopes to do their bidding for them. The fucking met their matches this time.

    If the people in the Middle East are tired of this shit I don't see why we should put up with it for a fucking inch.